Friday, February 25, 2022

Update on SNR&E Committee (S.281, S.201 & S.129)

Action Alert Request!
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Bernard -

This morning the Senate Natural Resources and Energy Committee again took up S.281, the bill to ban the hunting coyotes with dogs.

The committee hearing started with the announcement that there were now not one but two drafts of the S.281, both released that morning, that even several of the committee members had not seen.

To view the committee hearing of this morning you can click on this link.

Chris Bradley, President of the Vermont Federation starts the hearing. 

Kim Royar of VT F&W Department starts at 22:30, however there is a break in her testimony to allow for Legislative Counsel Mike O'Grady to walk through draft 1.3.  Kim Royar resumes her testimony at 57:25. Kim Royar's testimony is particularly compelling as to why S.281 is a problem.

The latest draft contains sections that seriously threatening the use of dogs to hunt coyote in Vermont, with the most serious threat being banning the use of GPS tracking collars.

If enacted into law:  This would bar a person hunting coyote with GPS collars on their dogs, with the use of such a collar previously allowing the dog to be considered "under control".  Without GPS, dogs would have to be leashed, which will quite effectively kill that sport, and remove a valuable tool that we have to manage and control coyote.

Further:  A dog owner would be liable for trespass if their dog strayed even one foot onto posted property.

Many hunters spend a lot of money on their dogs and invest much more in training.

If this ban is created for hunting coyotes with dogs, is it is only logical that the anti-hunting advocates will want to extend this ban to other forms of hunting with dogs.  Hunting rabbits, raccoons and bears would be the next targets.

Beyond S.281 however, the committee apparently intends to move the two other even more egregious bills the week of 3/7, with those being S.201 (ban on foothold traps) and S.129 (Restructure of F&W Board).

These are all bad bills, and it appears as though the committee wishes to ram them all thru the week after next (the legislature is closed next week for Town Meeting) in less than 4 days.

To oppose S.281 as well as any further movement of S.129 or S.201, PLEASE cut the below emails and paste them into the "to:" box of your email program, which will then be sent to the 5 members of the committee, as well as Senate Pro Tem Balint.

bbalint@leg.state.vt.uscbray@leg.state.vt.us; rawestman@gmail.com; mmacdonald@leg.state.vt.us; bcampion@leg.state.vt.us; rmccormack@leg.state.vt.us

You can use a subject line of:

NO TO S.281, S.201 and S.129

Then tell them:

S.129, S.201 and S.281 all adversely affect Vermonters who enjoy outdoor sports.  As such, they should not be rushed; Fish & Wildlife Department should be allowed to establish the required rules based on science and that these issues deserve a deliberative process that is expected from the Senate.

Please be polite; you are representing all sportspeople.

Things are moving fast right now, so please stay tuned across this next week as we provide you more information.

If you feel we are doing a service to the sportspeople of Vermont, please donate to help us continue protecting your rights.

Vermont Federation of Sportsmen's Clubs
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Tuesday, February 22, 2022

With your Help Governor Scott Veto S.30

Scott Veto S.30
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Bernard -

Governor Scott Vetoes bill S.30

Thank all of you for actively protecting your rights and traditions!

Your calls, emails the governors office, signing the petition and sharing awareness about bill S.30 have been an integral part in defeating this bill by governors veto

 

Bill S.30 was an egregious bill that would have created a new crime for exercising your civil rights of self defense in any hospital and virtually any facility that provided medical care in the state of Vermont. Flawed in many ways. S.30 sought to make criminals of honest citizens that believe in equal application of our civil rights.

Bill S.30 would have also created a 30 day waiting period for anyone purchasing or transferring a firearm that was delayed by a backlog in the federal national instant check system or NICS. This 30 days wait would occur even when the applicant was approved by the NICS system after an initial delay. The applicant would then have to wait until out the 30 days expired to take possession of the firearm they had previously been approved to have transferred to them.

 

With your help and activism VTFSC actively fought through committee and floor votes to defeat S.30. The justifications offered by some lawmakers to pass S.30 are already covered under several other existing state statutes.

 

Although we may no always agree with Governor Phil Scotts actions, we recognize his scrutiny of justice and thank him for his veto of S.30

 

Stay vigilant, stay active, engage your senators and representatives on matters of legislative importance.

 

Please donate to allow us to continue protecting your rights.

Vermont Federation of Sportsmen's Clubs
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Monday, February 14, 2022

Sign the Petition to Governor Scott!

Request the Governor VETO S.30
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Bernard --

As you likely know, S.30 has now passed both the House and Senate, and is now sitting in front of Governor Scott.  Previously, Governor Scott has signaled a reluctance to sign this bill, as he is not inclined to sign unneeded bills.

The Vermont GOP has started a petition to Governor Scott, asking him to veto this bill, and we respectfully ask that you please consider signing onto that petition by using this link.  The GOP also published this editorial as well.

We cannot support S.30 for the following reasons:

Section 1:  (Guns in Hospitals) - Hospitals are currently protected from firearms and weapons under 13 VSA 3705.  Not only is this law working, it is working Very Well, and it allows for Discretion by Police instead of requiring Strict Liability.

Section 2:  (Background Checks) - This closes what has been called a "loophole" in the law that can allow a prohibited person to get a firearm ("default proceed").  It was never a loophole, it was created to insure that the FBI stayed focused to get a result; the ATF/FBI follows up on all "default proceeds"; and if there are problems with Vermont records that are causing this, then let's fix the records.

Section 3:  (Extreme Risk) - This section allows Health Care Professionals to report people to the authorities if they have a concern about them hurting themselves or others.  Great idea, but isn't it likely that this will actually deter people from seeking help and speaking candidly?

Section 4:  (Expansion of ERPO Reporting) - We have no objection to this section.

Section 5:  (Exemption on Mag Ban) - We supported this.

Section 6:  (Firearm Relinquishment with Temp RFA/DV) - This suggested law steps all over Due Process.  Under Federal Law, property cannot be seized unless the defendant gets their day in court; under Federal Law a defendant in a Temporary Relief From Abuse (RFA) cannot POSSESS a firearm.  This suggest change would allow for property to be ordered relinquished without Due Process, possibly negatively affecting 1,500+ Vermonters annually by ordering relinquishment, just to have them returned within 2 weeks.

We CANNOT Support S.30.  Please use the link above to add your name to the GOP petition.

Chris

Thank You

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Thursday, February 10, 2022

February 10th Senate F&W Hearing Update

Jan 10 #2
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Bernard --

Your rights and traditions of hunting and trapping in Vermont are under serious attack.

Tonight, Thursday, February 10, 2022, the Senate Natural Resources & Energy Committee held a "public hearing" via Zoom on three bills.  To watch the hearing click on the video below:
 
 
At 27:15 (27 minutes,15 seconds) you can hear the testimony of Joe Mullin of the Congressional 
Sportsmen Caucus and at 33:00 (33 minutes) Chris Bradley, the President of the Vermont
Federation of Sportsmen's Clubs.
 
The three bills, would adversely impact outdoors activities of Vermont's sports men and women.
 
The bills are:
 
S.129, a bill to dismantle a highly efficient VT F&W Board that works well with the F&W Dept.
to enact the rules regulating hunting - in all forms and fishing.  S.129 can be viewed below:
 
 
S.201, a bill to ban trapping in Vermont.  Trapping is supported by the VT F&W Dept. because
the agency is responsible for managing Vermont's wildlife and for certain species trapping is
essential to that mission.  States that have banned trapping have had problems with the
management of wildlife species.  Such as beaver causing tree and flooding damage.
 
 
S.281, a bill to ban hunting coyotes with dogs that is based upon a publicity campaign that inaccurately portrays
how the hunting of coyotes with dogs is conducted.  
 
 
These bills would inflict irreparable damage and would be just a starting point for the end of VT hunting and fishing.
This ban fight is being supported and carried out in a campaign to make hunting and fishing extinct, one law at a time.
 
Will you stand in solid ranks with your other outdoor sports men and women?  
Donate to defend your rights:

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"Public" Hearing tonight, 5:30-7:30

Tune in to listen to testimony!
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Bernard --

Tonight, from 5:30PM to 7:30PM, the Senate Committee on Natural Resources & Energy will be holding an ersatz "Public" Hearing.  This hearing is for the purpose of taking testimony on three bills:  S.129; S.201 and S.281.  We stand against all three.

You can watch this show at this link.

As we understand the format, this will run for 2 hours, and is supposed to alternate between people who are "for" and people who are "against"; each person will be given a whopping 2 minutes to speak; a mere 40 seconds for each bill.

We will provide further updates as they develop, and will alert you to any needed activity.

Just as an aside:  In the history of "real" Public Hearings, there are three notable ones.  Certainly issues with firearms bring out a large crowd and are generally considered as the 3rd largest turnout.  The issue of same sex marriage brought out the 2nd largest; but the issue that brought the most people out was an earlier attempt to Ban trapping in the 90s.

This "public hearing" is a sham and serves nothing but to check a box that a hearing was held.  It is known that not all Vermonters have high-speed internet.  It is known that many sportspeople are older, and may not be comfortable with a computer, email or live-streaming.   OUR people WILL take time, and invest the money for gas, to go to the statehouse and stand with others who feel similarly, showing our legislators, by strength of numbers, that Vermonters feel differently than a vocal minority.

Without the ability for the public to stand and be seen, this "public" hearing is purposefully preventing any number of Vermonters from having even a modicum of input.

Please consider giving written testimony, and send that to:

jnewman@leg.state.vt.us

Thank You

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Friday, February 4, 2022

Trajectory of S.30

Trajectory of S.30
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Bernard --

Firearm Bill S.30 – House & Senate

What I am about to relate is one of the most disheartening, if not one of the most outright disgusting things I have ever seen in my 8-year tenure as a lobbyist.  Let me explain.

Over the past couple of weeks, the House Judiciary Committee took up S.30, which initially originated in the Senate last year.  While it started out as a bill to ban firearms in Hospitals, Day Cares and certain Government Buildings, testimony revealed that Day Cares and Government Buildings were already more than adequately covered, so those places were removed from the bill, leaving a simple bill that would create a new Statute:  13 VSA § 4023 - Possession of Firearms in Hospital Buildings Prohibited

We fought against that bill in the Senate as there is already an existing law, 13 VSA § 3705 – Unlawful Trespass, which does exactly what they wanted, it has proven that it works and works well, and it is already in use at Hospitals for precisely that purpose:  No Weapons or Firearms Allowed.

In order for either law to work, police must be present, but with 13 VSA § 3705, police have discretion to either get the problem peacefully resolved; or otherwise, to seize the weapon and arrest the person.  With S.30 there is no discretion.  You're guilty.  Period. 

Does anyone really think any law will stop anyone from doing something evil at a hospital?  Why should a mother, bringing her child into an Emergency Room while forgetting that she has a concealed pistol in her purse due to the urgency of the situation, be guilty of anything?

When House Judiciary picked it up, they immediately set to work to "Christmas tree" it, adding in 4 other gun-related bills.  All five of those sections we were able to give testimony on; but after we gave testimony, and three days before they voted it out; they added another.  THAT latest section (section 6, affecting 15 VSA § 1104 – Emergency Relief), is especially egregious.  This would be because it steps all over the Constitutional right of "Due Process".

Under Federal Law, property cannot be taken from an individual UNLESS they have Due Process, which means they have the opportunity to defend themselves in court.  Per Federal Law, a temporary RFA (Emergency Relief – or Relief From Abuse) can be made Ex Parte, meaning that the defendant does not even know that it is coming.

That conglomeration of bills passed out of House Judiciary on a party line vote.  It then passed out of the House itself, pretty much also on a party line vote.  Because it changed in the House from what had originally left the Senate – it went back to the Senate Judiciary.

Last Friday, 1/28, the schedule for this week was posted for Senate Judiciary.  It indicated a "walk-through" on S.30, which is the initial process that introduces  a bill to the committee.  That was ALL that was scheduled; no testimony whatsoever for the entire week.

So, we listened in on Zoom as the walk-through occurred.  That walk-through started however with discussion that there was pressure being placed on the committee chair by Senate President Pro Tempore Becca Balint to pass the bill IMMEDIATELY.  The schedule was then changed for yesterday, Thursday 2/3, to allow for 4 people to testify:  Judge Zonay; a person from the Vermont Network Against Domestic & Sexual Violence, a lackey from Everytown for Gun Safety, and the Federation.  No other gun groups were allowed to testify.

The current version of S.30 can be seen here.  You can view what happened at this link.

The discussion Thursday was started by the Chair informing the committee and everyone else that the bill was going to be voted out of the committee within 1 ½ hours, and it had already been scheduled by Balint for a vote in the Senate Floor.  The Senate Committee on Judiciary essentially rubber-stamped 5 sections that they had never seen before the previous day, without being given the time to discuss the bills in a deliberative manner.  It was a Done Deal, a true democratic process be DAMNED.

The debate in Senate Judiciary centered around two sections added in the House:  Sections 2 and 6. 

Section 2 of S.30 creates a potential 30 day NICS waiting period for citizens purchasing from a Vermont FFL who experience a default delay.  Under the federal NICS law the FFL may complete the transfer after three business days,  This 30 day wait could place a citizen in an endless cycle because the NICS process requires the NICS background to be restarted after 30 days.

Section 6 was the point of the most serious debate over the ability to confiscate firearms at a hearing for which the gun owner was not even aware and not able to present or have representation (Ex Parte).  This process lacks Due Process of law, which is required by Federal Law under the United States Code.  This section of S.30 was not germane to the rest of the bill as it amended 15 VSA, Vermont's Domestic Relations law, while the original S.30 and the vast majority of the rest of the bill amended sections of 13 VSA, Vermont's Criminal Law.

The bill will now go back to the House, where there is no question, they will vote to concur.  It then goes to the Governor's desk – where he has tentatively signaled that he may veto it – and at present there does not appear to be enough votes in the House to override that veto.

We will keep you posted – but despite this affront to the creation of sound public policy that is in compliance with Vermont and Federal Law – we will continue to fight the good fight.

Please forward to your like-minded friends.

Thank You

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Thursday, February 3, 2022

Alert! Public Hearing on 3 F&W Bills! Action Needed!

Alert! Public Hearing on 3 F&W Bills! Action Needed!
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Bernard --

Update on F&W – Senate

Alert! Public Hearing on 3 F&W Bills! Action Needed!

In our last F&W email, we informed you that the Chair of the Senate Committee on Natural Resources and Energy attempted to pull off a "public hearing" with less than 3 days notice.  With the help of you and our allies:  We stopped that cold.  However, Senate Leadership and the Chair of that committee still wish to jam forward with a new ersatz "public hearing" which will be held entirely by Zoom.

The bills are listed below with links so that you can investigate them for yourselves:  The Federation cannot support ANY of them.

The "public hearing" will be held on all 3 proposed laws on:

Thursday, February 10, 2022, from 5:30pm to 7:30pm

Please sign up now!  If think you only MIGHT be able to make it, sign up.  While it is a sign up process - they can and will likely use the results as an informal "poll", and we expect the antis had advanced knowledge of this.

If you want a chance to be heard you must sign up in advance of the hearing online using THIS LINK.

S.129  Restructure the F&W Board

The F&W Board is responsible for making the F&W rules.  They do so based on the science, research and recommendations from the biologists and species specialists at the F&W Department.  14 members serve on the board, one from each county, each appointed to 6-year terms by the Governor.  These people are typically selected for the direct knowledge and experience with the outdoors and wildlife.

Over the years, small but vocal groups persist in trying to end various outdoor sporting activities, with laser focus on things like trapping and hunting with dogs.  Every time they try, they are beaten back by sportspeople who defend what they hold dear.

However, what if the composition of the board were changed so that these small groups could make the rules?  That's the problem:  They resturcture the board NOT to have sportspeople, and suddenly new rules can be made, rules NOT favorable to what we hold dear.  The current  arrangement works and works exceptionally well, with the proof being that ALL of Vermont's game species are abundant & flourishing.

S.201  Complete Ban on foothold traps
Over the years, foothold traps have changed a great deal from what we might otherwise think of with spike jaws, etc.  Like it or not, foothold traps are an exceptional useful tool to handle various species that can become nuisances. 

S.281  Ban hunting of coyote with dogs
Coyotes are non-native and are thus an invasive species, and many, many people consider them as pests.  They are wily, evasive, opportunistic and can easily outdistance a human.  Not so with dogs, and as there is no season on coyote and they are not considered a game species, hunting coyote with dogs is an effective management tool.  Beyond this:  If hunting a coyote is considered "bad", what about hunting bunnies or birds?  It becomes a very slippery slope.

If the issue with hunting dogs is the concern that these dogs may bite humans, and we do acknowledge extremely isolated instances where this has occurred but given huge press, a better way to handle this is with another bill in play that would create strict liability for ALL dogs.

PLEASE:  Consider signing up, and sign up even if you think you might have a slight chance to make it.  Better to sign up now and have to cancel, then not be able to sign up at all.

This is not a time to say:  "I don't trap, or I don't hunt with dogs, or I don't care what rules are made.  It's divide and conquer.  We stand together or hang separately.  Even if you DON'T hunt with dogs or trap - you are surely affected by rules changes.

AGAIN:  To sign up, use THIS LINK.  And please forward to as many like-minded friends so that THEY might consider signing up.

We will have further updates on the F&W side as they develop, and we will be requesting additional action later.

Thank You

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Tuesday, February 1, 2022

VTFSC Update - 20220131

VFTSC Update - 20220131
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Bernard --

Update on F&W – House

Our last update concerned the 2022 version 1.1 of H.411, a Wanton Waste bill, a bill that WAS schedule to be voted out of committee without allowing any other testimony beyond that of the F&W Commissioner, who was clear he could not support it.

Remembering that bills go thru changes and have versions, you can read the latest version 2022 (version 2.1) here.  Across the 4 versions of last year, we could have supported 2021's v2.1 or v3.1, but then came v4.1 and we could no longer support it. 

What's the concern?  We have several, I'll list the two main ones.

The motivation of a Wanton Waste bill is the desire to disallow the wanton killing of animals when there is no intention of using any part of the animal; you have to "use" some of that animal.  We support this 100% for game species.  A problem arises with animals like coyote and crow, both of which are considered non-game, with coyote also being a non-native animal. 

As a predator, coyote will prey on virtually all animals up to and including deer.  If it is a land owner's preference to remove that predator so as to foster game on their property:  Why should they be forced to eat some part of it, or find some theoretical "use" for what is an invasive species, with an open hunting season, after they dispatch it?  It's similar with crow...there is a reason we have the expression "Eating Crow" as being something unpleasant.

As a result of the response from sportspeople to that last Alert, as well as the actions of the Federation and it's allies, the committee did NOT vote it out; they in fact responded with version 2.1 which exempted coyote:  A very solid step in the right direction.

Both the current and previous F&W Commissioners do not support coyote or crow being part of Wanton Waste, neither do we, and as is exemplified by the trajectory of this bill:  Things can change very quickly.  We will be giving testimony sometime across the morning of Wednesday 2/2. 

Thank you to all who responded to our plea, and we apologize for not having the time to provide more info at the time, but time was of the essence.

Update on F&W - Senate

This past Friday, the Senate Natural Resources agenda came out for this week.  As you can see, 3 bills of interest to us are starting to move:  S.129 (restructure of F&W Board), S.201 (anti-trapping) and S.281 (hunting coyote with hounds).  The Federation contacted the Chair to politely request testimony as we do NOT support any of them.  In response, the Chair responded that we would be allowed, and he also informed us of his intent to schedule a "public hearing" on all three bills, all to be done thru zoom, FOR THIS WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON AT 5:30PM.

The absurdity of trying to pull off a "public hearing" during Covid; on three issues that directly affect the Constitutional right of Vermonters to hunt, fish & fowl; with less than 3 days notice; when we know there are rural Vermonters that have high-speed internet issues; speaks volumes.  We responded, cc'ing the Pro Tem, that trying to pull off a "public hearing" was not appropriate.  As a result:  We are pleased to report that as of yesterday morning – the "public hearing" disappeared form the schedule.  At present, the three bills are starting to move with testimony being taken; the Federation is not yet scheduled, but we will be.

We cannot support S.129 because the current functioning of the F&W Board not only works, it works well, with the proof being that game species are abundant and flourishing.  We cannot support S.201 for obvious reasons; S.201, while currently only written for hunting coyote with dogs, opens the door for hunting any species with dogs.

A second email will follow shortly on what's going on with firearm-related bills.

Thank You

 

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